California Prop 32 will be one to watch...

[sdkid]

Amazingly strong wording in this LATimes (WAY liberal) opinion piece...

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-sand-prop32-blowback-20120824,0,2890404.story

...As a former teacher, she endorsed Proposition 32 because it's California's best hope for the implementation of urgently needed reform that would rescue the next generation of its children from bad schools that will cheat them of attaining their full potential.

What else can you call it but corruption when big government unions demand that the public officials they have put in office vote to spend money -- money that isn't there -- on generous pensions and other unsustainable benefits?

My Union is going bonkers this year--- and I think they are afraid.  Of course, none of them want to admit they are killing their own golden goose here. 

[rufusx]

Amazingly strong wording in this LATimes (WAY liberal) opinion piece...

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-sand-prop32-blowback-20120824,0,2890404.story

My Union is going bonkers this year--- and I think they are afraid.  Of course, none of them want to admit they are killing their own golden goose here.

So..... you'll  be voting to beso your own pension adios - eh? 
Gonna therefore opt to become 100% reliant on "the taxpayers" in your old age?

[SDGrad]

Gotta love unions and how they can kill any industry they will touch.

[sdkid]

So..... you'll  be voting to beso your own pension adios - eh? 
Gonna therefore opt to become 100% reliant on "the taxpayers" in your old age?

heh...  Like I said before-- I hope to MOVE out of here by next summer.  As for my Teacher Retirement... I just might cash it out into a 401K, because I don't trust the solvency of that system.  If this is a ponzi scheme, I will have my money out before the crap hits the fan. 

Gotta love unions and how they can kill any industry they will touch.

Union Greed will always ultimately equal FAIL.

[sodaknomad]

heh...  Like I said before-- I hope to MOVE out of here by next summer.  As for my Teacher Retirement... I just might cash it out into a 401K, because I don't trust the solvency of that system.  If this is a ponzi scheme, I will have my money out before the crap hits the fan. 

Union Greed will always ultimately equal FAIL.

Gotta get the mafia back in charge of the unions.

[DrPangloss]

Gotta get the mafia back in charge of the unions.

Well the thugs are in charge in Chicago. New contract but  how the hell do you pay for $300M+ in pay raises in a district that is $600M in the hole?

[pse1124]

So..... you'll  be voting to beso your own pension adios - eh? 
Gonna therefore opt to become 100% reliant on "the taxpayers" in your old age?

I don't think pensions just go poof...I think most of the time they turn into 401Ks. I think that happened in Wisconsin.

[pse1124]

Well the thugs are in charge in Chicago. New contract but  how the hell do you pay for $300M+ in pay raises in a district that is $600M in the hole?

You go to the state, and then the federal government, I guess.

[DrPangloss]

You go to the state, and then the federal government, I guess.

Illinois is in deeper sheet then Chicago is, which is pretty deep. Think California.

[Brotsky]

Well the thugs are in charge in Chicago. New contract but  how the hell do you pay for $300M+ in pay raises in a district that is $600M in the hole?

You don't worry about how to pay for it....I gots to get mine and the hell with the rest of the state.  More greed and corruption displayed by another union.

[rufusx]

You don't worry about how to pay for it....I gots to get mine and the hell with the rest of the state.  More greed and corruption displayed by another union.

Hey -look!!!! - you just described the kid's attitude. 
He's got his taxpayer funded pension and he's gonna take it and run and the hell with the rest of the plan (union) members.

My, my, my. 

[sdkid]

Hey -look!!!! - you just described the kid's attitude. 
He's got his taxpayer funded pension and he's gonna take it and run and the hell with the rest of the plan (union) members.

My, my, my.

I (as in ME) funded my pension. 

[rufusx]

I (as in ME) funded my pension.

Using the $$$ you received from the taxpayers - as your salary.
SOCIALIST!!!

[sdkid]

Using the $$$ you received from the taxpayers - as your salary.
SOCIALIST!!!

LOL!  I knew it was coming... threw ya the softball anyway!  LOL   

[SilentBob]

Well the thugs are in charge in Chicago. New contract but  how the hell do you pay for $300M+ in pay raises in a district that is $600M in the hole?

Well, you just raise taxes on the rich people to make up the difference.  The only problem is, the rich ones are the ones in charge, and they don't want to pay more.  Oh, but Chicago has democratic leadership, they should have no problem paying more to support the children.  I'm sure they will figure out someway to raise taxes on themselves, with a few loopholes, that places the burden on regular working people and never pay a penny more themselves.  They might even end up paying less if they word the tax increase correctly. 

[sdkid]

Well, you just raise taxes on the rich people to make up the difference.  The only problem is, the rich ones are the ones in charge, and they don't want to pay more.  Oh, but Chicago has democratic leadership, they should have no problem paying more to support the children.  I'm sure they will figure out someway to raise taxes on themselves, with a few loopholes, that places the burden on regular working people and never pay a penny more themselves.  They might even end up paying less if they word the tax increase correctly.

What the Hell are you talking about Bob----  Clearly only REPUBLICANS do that kind of thing!  Democrats are all about fighting for the little guy-- remember?  Dems are Robin Hood, and the Repubs are the fat-ass rich guys that Robin Hood steals from.
emphasis on the word steals.